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27 February 2007

Would someone please explain to me...

How is it feasible to obtain or renew your firearm license online? I mean surely getting permission from the government to own and use a firearm in South Africa requires you to have some kind of eyesight and fingerprint test, or maybe aim at something and hit it, to prove you are actually going to be safe to walk around in public?

If anyone knows how this works, please fill me in, because I am struggling to put this together in my head.

3 Comments:

At 8:57 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Howzit,

You are quite correct, it is not possible to renew your firearm license online. This is merely another trick by government to induce people into believing it can be done. See my post on www.crimexposouthafrica.net (in 'comments' against the relevant post).

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Martin L Hedington
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Gauteng Regional Advocacy Director: Gun Owners of South Africa
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Ekurhuleni Ward 15 Ward Committee: Public Safety.
011 391 2979
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At 11:53 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah, yes... so much more SAPS horse-apples... which plays well to the average journalist in SA (known almost everywhere else as liars who are too lazy to check the details of their stories).

In fact they are referring to a test on the new FCA and regulations which will go towards proving a renewal applicant's COMPETENCY. Which then is forwarded to the Central Firearm's Registry who will then decide whether or not to issue a licence renewal.

Note: this is only for folk who already have licences (which were originally issued FOR LIFE), and who wish to retain their own property in the face of an attempt at disarmament and confiscation of this private property without compensation by the government.

I hope this clarifys the hysterical headlines ;->

 
At 12:58 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately many people and companies are just ignorant or hope to prey on the ignorant. Government, Prometric and SASSET seem to fall well into that description.

As an existing firearm owner the SAPS want you to renew your licence which was issued for life and under all circumstances is at least valid until 2009. To make their lives easier they have decided to spilt this renewal process into birth-date groups. The FCA allows this. It even allows a fine if you don't but here is the catch. This only applies if you intend to renew your licence at the time. If you decide to sell the firearm you need not renew your licence. You have up to July 31 2009 to sell. Naturally you will then find that government has totally destroyed the market and you will not able to sell your firearm/s.

At this point and at this point only you now have to decide what to do. You can relicense, donate, deactivate, dispose or hand it over to the SAPS claiming compensation. I would suggest that any firearm for which compensation is claimed is given to your lawyer to hold until compensation is paid. Once the SAPS or government has possession compensation will not be paid. The Minister has so stated despite the act mandating compensation payment.

For relicensing and the competency test, prior learning is given to any handling or proficiency testing. Thus only the knowledge of the Act portion must be written. A new licence requires a full test.

Prometric have five centre in the whole country. You must go to any one of these five centres

I quote

1 Contact a firearms training provider offering e-Test to book training or purchase a self-study guide, and to book your e-Test.

2 The training provider will advise you on the licensing process.

3 You will take a formative (practice) test. This can be done either at the training centre or at home.

4 When you are ready, you then take the e-Test at the Prometric Test Centre, located at the same premises as the training provider.

You ask "How is it feasible to obtain or renew your firearm license online?"

Online to these computer illiterates is on their PC at a training centre.

You seem puzzled "I mean surely getting permission from the government to own and use a firearm in South Africa requires you to have some kind of eyesight and fingerprint test, or maybe aim at something and hit it, to prove you are actually going to be safe to walk around in public?"

Huh! What are you smoking? Take five minutes of your time and find out the truth. Adequate firearms training can be given in 10 minutes of instruction at the point of sale. A firearm has two controls easily learnt.

Let us suppose for one minute this training was indeed needed. What would be the result of no training? Accidents?

In the USA where no training is required for ownership and in some states for carry the accident rate is some hundreds per year in a country of 280 million. Half of all households own a gun. In South Africa the same applies, it is in the tens per year from 45 million of which 2.5 million own guns. You have a better chance of being struck by lightening.

Gun control propaganda is very pervasive and plays on your emotions and fears. We can't have all those untrained gun owners running around with guns they will kill somebody and fights will break out all over. The streets will run red with the blood of innocent victims and children caught in the cross fire. Yeah! Right! Tune up your lie detector. Gun control has never told the truth in all its history, never and never will.

 

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